
My hands hurt from holding my mouse so tightly and my heart’s pounding. In a few seconds, I will be wiped out by several siege tanks, but I don’t know this yet and what I don’t know is killing me. It’s a mirror match for 1v1 ladder play in StarCraft 2. I just placed platinum in the previous game and although I should be pleased, all I’m doing is panicking instead. Whoever said the most stressful part of SC2 multiplayer were the initial five placement matches hasn’t played afterwards–or at least hasn’t played them as someone as competitive as me.
The enemy appears as I’m debating taking a third expansion to support my burgeoning army. As I see him coming down the map, my mind stops and my stomach sinks. Seconds become minutes as I realize I am about to lose.
And lose I do. His units stream into my base, breaking through my expansion and destroying my mineral line. Dozens of SCVs are slaughtered before I can react. In horror, I watch as he overwhelms me and proceeds up the ramp to tear apart my poorly placed defenses. I load my remaining army up into Medivacs and try to go drop them behind his base, but it’s too little and much too late. He’s already on my Command Center and it’s about to be over. I exhale sharply when the score screen finally pops up and finally let go of my mouse. Our scores are nearly identical in many areas and if you watch the replay–as I would, many times after to analyze each little mistake I made–you will see that there are several times I would have won if I had pushed.
But I didn’t push. I didn’t win. I lost because wasted too much time. I hesitated and I played the match poorly.

It’s only after a few hours that I even think to look him up on Battle.net. It turns out he’s a top-ranked diamond player, the only league above platinum in StarCraft 2. It’s in hindsight, away from the heat of the moment, that I admit I was too hard on myself–and also way too serious about a video game. The sad thing is, this is not an entirely new revelation for me.
Some people play for the plot, others play for the experience, and I play to achieve. When I play games, I’ve always played for the win. I don’t know how to see the bigger picture, to appreciate the multilayered whole. Where others see engrossing characters and vibrant landscapes, all I see is the victory line and what it will take me to get there. I can’t be calm in multiplayer games and they are never relaxing for me. I’m bad enough that I could probably take the recently announced breathing simulation called Innergy that Ubisoft is making for the Kinect and turn it into a competition if given the opportunity.

I blame my DNA a lot, frequently joking that I’m a lost cause–that I must just have an extremely competitive allele somewhere in my genes. It would be fitting and unsurprising if that were true. But I also suspect it’s a byproduct of environment, one part learned reaction and one part genetics. Whatever the case, it’s extremely detrimental to gaming at times.
When I was younger, I lost a game of Candy Land. My brilliant six year old reaction was to grab the board and snap it in half. If I couldn’t win in Candy Land, no one could. A few years later, on a vacation in Hawaii with my best friend in an arcade, I lost a game of Tekken 3 and I stormed out. As a Street Fighter devotee, I’d never even played Tekken before that, but I couldn’t believe I lost. And, while playing Counter-Strike competitively in my youth, I would get so high-strung that I wouldn’t be able to forgive myself for days if I messed up. I will always remember the scrim where I miscalculated the allotted time and let the bomb explode because I was too busy faking a diffuse, assuming the Terrorist player would come back to snipe me while I was busy snipping wires. It was just the two of us and my adrenaline spiked, clouding my judgment. He never did come back–it turns out he had less health than me and just ducked out, not wanting to risk it–and I cost us an entire round with my indecision.
My failure haunted me. My team placed hope in me and I let them down.

Truthfully, all I’d really done was let myself down. I shouldn’t have cared so much, it was just a game. Hours after the match, while everyone else was scrimming into the late night and having fun, I was off being sullen and regretful at that particular LAN party. It soured my entire night to lose a round, even though we won the overall match. I could not see the entirety–instead all I saw was that small miscalculation I made on de_dust. It replayed in my head several times and I couldn’t explain why. After a while, my friend came up to me in the adjacent room and explained they were doing a knife-only round on de_aztec for fun. “You should go back inside, everyone misses you,” he said.
Then he said, “You know, you might take games a little too seriously. Maybe you should stop doing that.”
It was good advice, I just didn’t know how to take them any less than seriously at the time.
As the years progressed, I’ve learned to tone it down. I’m done with the days of 100% completions or insanity runs. When I beat Mass Effect 2, I played it on normal difficulty and didn’t think twice. I knew if I started down the insane difficulty path, I would have had a lot less fun with the overall storyline and immersion the title provided. A couple months ago, I started playing Super Street Fighter IV and I made sure I didn’t go overboard. While I researched some moves for Chun-Li and made sure I had some good counters, I purposely avoided online play. I knew the beast within me wouldn’t be sated if she ever got started and I didn’t want to be forced to shell out money for a gamepad. I’ve also made sure that while I play Team Fortress 2 well, I never join a clan. I know if I actually started to get competitive, it wouldn’t be enough to just have a nice kill to death ratio or to help defend a capture point. I would have to have it all.

Part of why I try so hard to reign myself in is that it feels like games get forever ruined for me when I take them to the level of intensity mirroring my Counter-Strike years. To err is human and I err quite a bit in this sense. Blizzard’s World of Warcraft is a particularly good example of a more recent incident where I did not keep my competitive nature in check.
At WoW’s launch, I initially intended to play casually with friends. For several months, I was successful in this endeavor. But then I fell into the wrong crowd at random, becoming a member of one of the top guilds in the world where I got a few world firsts and lost a lot of sleep in the process–sleep I really wish I could get back. I remember being so into the game at one point that I would keep my speakers on so people could wake me up through ventrilo for impromptu world boss raids. They would wake me up almost every day. I would obsess over min-maxing, worry if I made a mistake, and stay up for hours thinking about certain boss fights. It was a disaster and, after over a year, I quit playing on that level. Playing World of Warcraft quickly became a chore and rarely fun, the very nature the spirit of gaming was against.
But from that point on, even after I shelved my top progression character, I couldn’t play the game like a normal person. Each top ranked kill had altered the game to an unplayable degree and there had been so many of them. I couldn’t wipe in a normal dungeon after playing with skilled players–it was too much of a regression. It was the difference between night and day. As I would discover, there was no going back to a casual player after being so hardcore.

I kept coming back, though, even in knowing this and genuinely disliking the game. And each time I found myself joining similar guilds–while they weren’t as serious as the original guild, they still fit the definition of extremely hardcore. In each guild in each expansion, I would compete for top ranked world kills against my better judgment and spend hours outside of raids playing the game. The game was almost a job and I barely liked it. In The Burning Crusade, I spent six days straight raiding the Eredar Twins in Sunwell on a Restoration Druid for a hopeful top five world kill. In Wrath of the Lich King, I became an officer of another guild that would push similarly. I even grinded out The Insane title with the advent of achievements, because it was a sign of dedication and mastery of the game. I don’t think I even had much fun spending hundreds of hours killing endless pirates for reputation, searching for rare drops like Pristine Black Diamonds, and running Dire Maul over three hundred times. In fact, it was really quite tedious.
However, that didn’t stop me from doing it.
It didn’t stop me from doing it because, for me, gaming is about the end game like I said earlier. I want to be first, I want to be one of the best, and I will do anything to get there. My hunger knows no bounds and it’s up to me to put my foot down. When playing Mario Kart against my cousin nearly a decade ago, I remember fist pumping after I beat him and got the gold. I literally turned around and told him that I “totally owned him.” My entire family just stared at my thirteen year old self–they could never understand. Honestly, I’m not sure I even understand. It was just Mario Kart, after all.
Whether it was DNA or learned responses, though, all I know is what I knew back then: I’m a competitive person and it’s in my blood. At least now I also know that I can reign it in if I try.

I never explained how my StarCraft 2 ladder loss really ended. After spending the entire night watching the replay, hemming and hawing at my mistakes, I logged off Battle.net and took a few days vacation from the game. I almost uninstalled. I’m still playing mostly 2v2s, considering doing placement matches with my partner. But I don’t think I’ll do 1v1s again for a while, at least until I’m sure I won’t get obsessed with victory. Six games was enough for my competitive side to start rearing again and I’m not going down that road again. The last thing I really need now, in a world where gaming is supposed to be fun and I have a real full-time job, is another Counter-Strike.
Or another Candy Land.

I understand the urge. You aren’t alone in this. It’s worse when you just aren’t any good at the games you really enjoy. :(
It’s funny, when it comes to video games I’m WAY more relaxed than you, I totally take it easy. On the other hand with Magic: The Gathering I dissect my tournament games turns by turns, and moreover worry about just how my sideboard decisions affected the game. Today I had to settle with a near perfect record, and second place, the difference being one game in one match, and I’m certain if I had sideboarded one card differently I would have emerged victorious.
I find it interesting that this entire article is exactly the kind of attitude that is typically associated with MALE gamers. The obsessive need to win, and the emotional turmoil that comes with failure (no matter how big or small, relatively speaking). Just more reinforcement that gamers are gamers, regardless of gender.
Oh wow, it didn’t even occur to me that the author might not be a guy until I read your comment.
yeah she only mentioned it briefly in the article
Ideally, you should never assume anyone is a guy.
Video games should never feel like a second job or a chore, if it reaches this point, then there is something wrong with the game design or the player. Just do what you like in game, doing everything is a mistake, games give alot of options to players to choose and play their playstyle.
I’m exactly the opposite, but I used to live with some pretty competitive players though. There were times when I would come home and see broken headsets or controllers on the floor, and often they would yell so loud the neighbors would complain. I just never understood how they could be so into something that really didn’t matter.
That’s probably why I play the engineer in TF2 more than any other class. I’m a defensively minded person. Let the others rush in and attack-I’ll be in the back minding the teleporter that keeps the front lines stocked and the sentries that keep them from pushing us back. I enjoy that sense of being the man behind the scenes that keeps everything going, with my well-built machine humming along perfectly and ensuring victory for everyone else.
This is also why I’m bad at Starcraft-I turtle like crazy. I love to build but hate to attack. I try to play engineer in a game where he doesn’t exist.
Well, thats not only a game specific phenomena.
Whenever i compare myself ONLINE (business skills, game skills, whatever…anything) i start getting inferiority complexes.
After browsing/playing for several hour i always forget that i am competing with the best of the best, the top 0,001 % on this planet and that those people probably sacrificed 95% of their life to get there.
Its no longer enough to be the best of the clique, class, clan, guilde – no, it has to be better, because there always IS someone better.
What a fatal error in reasoning. :)
Im over 30 now, there is no way i can ever beat those Koreans with my lousy 120 APMs without Red Bull, coccain and what not.
No Problem beating people at chess, turn based strategy games, or even some FPS, but Starcraft2 ? No way.
The second you realize that gaming is all about beating your own records things actually get enjoyable again.
After all, multiplayer is just singleplayer with an exchanged AI. :)
R-r-r-r-r-r-raaaage Quit!
Seems to me like you don’t really value yourself. In a world where we are assaulted by money, status symbols and perceived success you have carved out a place where you can excel and you give it inflated worth. Your identity seems to hinge on it, in fact. If you aren’t the best then you are nothing. In all honesty I’d see someone about that. =P I can’t imagine how you’ll ever truly gain happiness in life this way.
Only someone who values mediocrity over excellence would hold your opinions. Did it ever occur to you that the author, like many others who are passionate about their pursuits, might find happiness in being good at something?
Life would be dull if we were content with merely eating and sleeping.
Valuing excellence does not equal valuing being able to beat everyone and freaking out when you lose a match.
Failure is how we get better and learn, so someone who actually valued excellence and not just winning would be happy to meet someone better than them as it meant they could keep learning and improving.
too right m8! :) pity that not many understand players like ashelia. she’s one of those few that aspire to perfection.
I disagree with A-jay’s statements about Ashelia’s happiness because they come across as patronizing assumptions, but I also agree with Suzie in that there’s middle ground to all this.
While talking about inflated worth in regard to any hobby is foolish, calling the opposite of seeking excellence in a hobby mediocrity is going too far. That would make a sizable chunk of gamers mediocre, which implies a lack of passion. I desire a breadth of knowledge when it comes to games, which entails playing lots of them. I ultimately don’t have enough time to ever reach excellence in any game if I want to get around to the next one.
That’s not to say I disagree with the need to learn games in the first place; making games functionally symmetrical would just be awful for all parties involved.
Probably not going to get therapy because an internet anonymous poster says I should. I mean, I’d have pretty low self-esteem if I did, wouldn’t I?
Mediocrity and excellence are not the point he is trying to make. If you always seek victory and the “win” then your life is empty and void of any real happiness.
Instead of therapy I would recommend reading a book called “Way of the peaceful Warrior”.
As an x-competitive gamer myself (once a top CS player myself) and x-daoc master I have changed my ways but still compete very well in games that I enjoy.
There’s nothing wrong with grinding and working hard to achieve what you feel you need to compete, but beyond that getting hung up on victory only distracts the mind from achieving it.
You need to let go of what will happen, and what has happened, and focus on what is happening. Realize that no matter how much you look to the past or future nothing matter more then the present. Lose your focus, lose your mind, lose your match.
A quote from the great Buddah before his death “try your best” and in addition to that, forget the rest.
I forgot to mention too that the above poster is correct,that you learn more from defeat then you do from victory.
When you start to feel a rush from being pushed to your limits, when you find a thrill when defeat is on your doorstep, only then can you really achieve real victory. In a way defeat is more important then victory because you learn the most from your mistakes.
Like I said as a once very competitive person myself and especially in gaming, I find that this path is far more rewarding, and I enjoy more victories and friendships then I ever have before.
I find myself following the same path as you. It is as if there’s an inbuilt motto in my DNA that says, ‘If you can’t be at the top, don’t play at all’.
Perhaps this could be attributed to the first MMO that I played, Lineage 2. It was a competitive PvP environment, and being the first MMO I was playing, I was genuinely absorbed into the game. I started out with a few friends, but I played harder, and for longer hours until I outpaced them all, despite each of them having started before me. I would joke with friends that this was a real life passive racial skill (since I was of Asian origin). Soon I found myself in one of the top guilds on my server. That was when I went even further.
In this guild, it was all about being first. We had our phone numbers posted on our forums. When raid bosses would spawn (it was all competitive, non-instanced), guild members would give me a miss call, waking me up and rushing on ventrilo to find out what was going on.
I played that way for maybe 3 or 4 years before I stopped. After reforming a couple of times, the guild broke up, and its members went on to various other games. Since then, my own life commitments have prevented from playing to that degree of competitiveness. No matter how casual I try to play, not being able to be top end raiding guilds, or competitive clans in FPS games usually depresses me late game and I find myself in a limbo, wanting to go forward but not being able to, and I quit.
Ashelia, if you have any advice on how to possibly go back to to the time when we enjoyed games more, or didn’t play for achievements or golden wrenches, I would like to know.
SC2 – Legion CC: 421
there is no cure for what we have. well, actually there might be one, play single player games.. :)
That is the behavior of champions, you should totally find a game that you can win money and fame with. Or just play casually and have fun. Both works.
Playing that intense and gaining almost nothing seems strange, I think you should switch a game when that happens.
Which is why WOW really isn’t so much about skill as it is time invested.
The only way to “win” at WOW is to be the one who can devote 18 hours a day to it. It does become a 2nd job and I have quit twice because of it. This last time is sticking. Not even the Cataclysm expansion peaks my interest… its just the same ploy Everquest did, except I expect it to work out better for Blizzard just because its Blizzard.
Shit, smoke a joint man!
Out of all of the other games, that kind of attitude could actually pay off in Starcraft 2 with the esports scene. One of the few games that can actually support it, and SC2 does it on a huge scale (By far the biggest professional esport in the world).
You have to be able to take your losses though. Starcraft 2 is so intense, and you can make so many tiny little mistakes and lose a match, and you need to be able to lose, because you are going to. Even if you become the best player in the world someone else will come along and beat you eventually.
If you haven’t heard of Day9, you should check out his videos. He does Starcraft 2 commentary, and he’s pretty informative as well as funny. Day9tv.blip.tv i believe his site is.
Specifically watch The Day9 Daily Ep #100. It’s about his life with Starcraft, and he talks about some of the same things you mention here. If nothing else it’s really inspirational.
If you ever decide to get back into 1v1s hit me up, I’d be willing to teach you a few things (I am a diamond level terran). Or even if you feel that itch and just want to play some practice 1v1s to make it go away. xD. If you’re interested send me an email and i’ll toss you my ID.
Maybe I will! I don’t want to get sucked in though. I’ve only played six league games, and probably 50 vs the AI at this point. Trying to be casual with it, hence the end of the post. It’s fun, but I shouldn’t let myself make it into a second job (damn competitive nature, et all). I will check out Day 9, thanks for the suggestion.
This sounds like bragging thinly disguised in “oh woe is me, it’s hard to be this excellent.” If you want to be near the best at any online gaming, you’re competing with the world. You must expect to face people who dedicate their lives to it, and to do the same if you want to play on their level. If you don’t enjoy it, don’t do it.
I don’t think I’m excellent at all, so I’m very sorry you read it this way. Not sorry I wrote it, more sorry you believe someone stating that they’re in plat is bragging. Not proud of being in plat at all, anyone could be in that if they got the right 5 people to play against.
bragging? haha. have u read the article? if u did then u’ve misunderstood it. want to know what bragging really is? this: I’ve been playing Guild Wars for 3 years doing mostly Guild vs Guild battles. I’ve been part of 2 major guilds and I was awesome, shit we were awesome. been top 10 in the world. beat that in any game u want. and I was not awesome at playing only that game. now I’m playing Battlefield Bad Company 2 and I kick ass. I get an Ace pin every day. because I AM AWESOME! ok THIS is bragging. :D
You’re missing the point of the entire article, Gregory. Referring to her achievements was meant to explain the level she was playing at, not to brag. Nearly everything was overlaid with the “i focused on my losses” vibe.
You don’t have to throw all your cards in (or sell your sanity) to be competitive at anything, especially video games.
I’m an extremely competitive person. I don’t think I’ve ever played a game without looking into the “competitive” aspect of it. Jk:A, CS 1.6 and Source, Starcraft 2, WoW — and the list goes on. Whatever game I’m playing, I must win.
I’ve also played at some pretty competitive levels. CAL-M (and I for a short period), a few CEVO tournaments. Top 100 WoW guilds… I’m sure you get the point. I’m someone who spends a lot of time theorycrafting and thinking about strats. I love that part of gaming. I like figuring out the little advantages that let me win.
When I was in high school I took this sort of thing really seriously. I’d lose sleep over losing and just generally rage out all the time. I spent a whole lot of time raiding in WoW, too. It was terrible, when I look back on it.
When I got to the “real world” and essentially started to achieve some pretty important things in my life I realized that all of the time I was spending playing video games was pretty much worthless… so why was I taking it so seriously? All of the achievements meant nothing. I felt silly for coming to this conclusion so late. If I wasn’t having fun in my free time, then what was the point?
I came to a personal understanding that I would still put energy into them — but only if I was having fun. So yeah, I am still “competitive” and I still spend time out of the game being the best and all, but I don’t sweat it if I get behind. I just shrug and move on. So what? It isn’t like I am losing any great part of my life.
tl;dr: Be awesome at games, but don’t take them seriously. When you win, it is awesome. When you lose, eat a bagel.
That’s basically what the post was talking about. I was like this more in high school and now, as someone with a full time job, I back away if I get sucked into it or get too competitive. Games are supposed to be fun, not work. I don’t let myself get too serious about them anymore (SC2 was probably the only exception).
I think everyone who plays games “seriously” goes through this phase. Most of my friends went through the same deal.
When I started to read this article I was terrified it was going to be a “fkn casuals” sort of article, so I was pleasantly surprised.
To be fair, if I were eighteen and not twenty-three now, it probably would have been! But I have changed a lot over the years, and definitely moved on from caring quite as much. I imagine in five years, I won’t even blink when I lose. At least I don’t nerdrage anymore, just nitpick :P
w8 I’m 27 and I love “fkn casuals” articles/posts. does that mean something is wrong with me? :p
You need to learn how to use bots and map hacks. Makes all this soo much easier. Fuck fair.
I’m sure someone with drive like Ashelia’s would know all about those if that was the kind of satisfaction they were looking for. Some people play for those end results, sure, but the fact that they did so legitimately is often a key factor in that satisfaction.
Also, fuck cheating. Ahem.
I’m not sure if I was ever as competitive as you are lol. I do hate to loose and will still try and brush my skills up to be one of the best but in my old age I don’t care as much anymore haha. Ashelia, we’ll have to have a Street Fighter match…I’m sure you’ll kick my ass in Star Craft so I won’t challenge you in that : )
For sure! I will definitely lose in Street Fighter, but it’d be fun.
And not are–were/was! I’m definitely not as competitive anymore, though I do have my hang-ups like SC2.
I once played someone in SFIV in an unranked match. He used Sagat and I tried once with everybody. He beat me with every single character I tried (read: all of them) except Abel, with whom I strangely dominated him with, even getting a perfect one round. I felt like it was some kind of fluke, so I kept playing him until I won with Ken by a hair.
I suppose that’s my form of being competitive, knowing I can beat someone at something at all. I’m always interested in the high-level play mechanics of games like Street Fighter or Devil May Cry, but I lack the manual dexterity, patience and time to practice them. Nonetheless, I feel like I should be able to use that knowledge to beat a high-level player just once.
The Sagat in SFIV probably didn’t know the matchup with Abel, that’s why you won. Sagat in SFIV was my main. :) If you were high-level, the counter-pick is Akuma or Dhalsim, Sagat is a monster.
As someone who’s mentality is like this ‘play to win’ at any cost, using top-tier, not only can it bring success, but lots of hate with it. People are like ‘you should play for FUN’ or which ‘character’ you like. My fun is winning, at any cost legitimately.
However this impacted my education, and I realized if put into other things it will produce worthy results which I can have for life (musical instruments, etc.), so now I stick to being a strong casual gamer. The beast within is still there, I just don’t feed it like it wants to! Hope that’s what you did Ashelia.
Yeah, Sagat was a beast, that’s who I lost to in that gamestop SF4 tournament :p I think most gamers are at least a little competitive, a lot of the roots in the gaming community come from a competitive spirit. Trying to get the high score in Asteroids was an obsession of my for a loooooong time haha.
You should be a progamer lol, your passion would help your drive xD
This is a brilliant article, and perfectly details that insane drive that sits in the back of any (or most) hardcore gamers. I’ve been in almost the exact same situation as you across many different games(including being in Drama when you were in DnT, small world), where you become so enthralled by the need to excel that you actually lose sight of the purpose of the game: Fun.
Like you, I’ve tried to cut back and avoid getting into this mode of play. I’ve specifically avoided playing ranked SC2 precisely to avoid falling down the rabbit hole again, but there is always that niggling desire for the glory that comes from the first kill, the top of the ladder, or just being on top. Sadly, it seems most analogous to an abusive relationship.
Best of luck to you in finding and maintaining that balance, or whatever works for you.
Well put my friend. (coming from another DnT player from the same age).
I feel similarly, though not to the same extreme extent. In video games that I play online I always try to be the best player in each match, but not being the best doesn’t upset me, so long as I did better than most of the other players. I usually play Battlefield: Bad Company on Xbox LIVE, and I’m definitely one of the best players out there overall, in terms of my score per round, and my ability to play offense and defense equally well. I’m not ranked highly because I don’t play it obsessively, so my total score for all matches played is somewhere about midway up the charts, but I’m okay with that. I’ve played against the top ranked players and won, so it means nothing to me that they waste their days playing endlessly while I can pop in for a couple hours and hand them their asses. Occasionally I lose, and it bothers me if I know I was performing badly, but only mildly, and only enough to make me want to do better the next round to prove that I don’t suck. If I know it was my team that sucked, I try and make up for that by playing more lone-wolf style in the next round and allow them to soak up bullets while I take out the enemy defenses for them.
In the end, it really just requires you to sit back and realize that, yes, you have the potential to be the top ranked player, but getting there isn’t nearly as fun as just playing against the top players and winning, and knowing that they’re screaming at their TV in rage. There’s some small satisfaction in bugging the hell out of one person by going after them and watching them get frustrated in the game, then laughing as their performance slips with every death they experience.
Then again, I’m one of those gamers that doesn’t like the people that spend all day playing games, so it’s personal for me… :P
It’s quite hard to check the urge to be “compulsively competitive.” I’ve struggled with it my whole life. Personally I’ve found the key is to funnel all this competitive energy into something relatively constructive… and this way i can feel a bit more balance outside of said vent. Competitive sports have been a great outlet for that side of me, games serve the same purpose without the added benefit of being a physical outlet as well. Good luck, and its not a problem if you can channel it… :D
No one should be that involved in a video game. I log a lot of video game time. Usually 1-3 hours a work day dnd 4-12 hours an off day (benefit of working nights). Games are meant to be fun, and if you cant have fun with them walk away. Please! For the rest of us whos nights you are also ruining with your tantrums, PLEASE walk away. We all shout an obscenity now and then when we do something stupid, but if you are throwing full blown tantrums or walking out of somewhere in a rage… Maybe you just need to find another hobby.
I never wrote that I cried tears of rage or screamed at people. There was no anger nor did I ever mention a full blown tantrum. Are you projecting?
Yes, I was serious. Yes, I took it way too seriously. But I highly doubt I made anyone miserable in the process, except myself.
This raised a little question in my mind about games writing in general; is this sort of projection getting in the way of people’s reading of articles like yours?
in response to beamsplash: gaming is always personal. Because games are a media that we consume physically, with our hands and bodies, and invest huge amounts of time in, people are always going to be thinking of themselves first whenever they read or think or talk about games. People who don’t have the sense to realize how much of themselves they’ve used to fill in the gaps around their experience of games, so to speak, are always going to be the worst kinds of trolls. They can’t see their situation from the outside and are going to have a hard time understanding other people’s experiences. So yeah, I think you’re right about projection and games writing. People project like crazy, even when they’re not actively trolling.
Without any kind of shallow racism, I have to say: you my friend have a korean attitude.
Ask the koreans and they’ll tell you, that in korea there is no silver medal, no second winner, if you lose, you are a loser, even if you have won all the matches for a straight year.
That is what makes esports in korea look insane for most of the world.
Seriously though, I feel with you. Higher functioning autism makes competitive play not so interesting for me, but I did it, 1 on 5 at LANs was fun, untill no one wanted to play anymore.
I played every game on insane/godlike/hell mode from the first time on since my amiga times.
But it lost its flavor.
It actually IS fun to play something like SupCom or Mass Effect on normal, it does not last for long, because you get trough it so fast, but I is supposed to be short and not an 18h Civ2 session.
See it more like a 90 min Hollywood Film not Akira Kurosawa.
Do not make a chess game out of it, play some go, have some tea and kick back reading 1Q84.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc0Pgm8lWRw
I’ve watched this documentary and I love the part where one of the players says something along the lines of “I like to win, because when I win I feel alive”. That’s basically me right there, if I hadn’t taken RTS seriously, I’d be more competitive at soccer than I currently am… I guess it’s a game of balance or priorities.
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Hey Ashelia, reading your article reminded me of an interview with Daigo Umehara, one of the world’s top Street Fighter players. As a competitive player, you might find it interesting.
“During the official Capcom vs. SNK 2 series of tournaments, where I won three championships straight, I was severely stressed out. No matter what I ate I was out of it, and when I talked to my parents, they said “you’re probably very stressed right now”. Mentally, I wasn’t having fun at the time. I was practicing seriously with all my might. However, these days my mental state is about 10% serious when I’m attending tournaments. If I play too seriously, then I’m unable to read my opponent’s moves.”
http://www.versuscity.net/2010/07/23/sankei-interviews-daigo-umehara/
I know how you feel about SSF2! Me and pretty much the rest of our QA testers have full blown tournaments on breaks and lunches. Needless to say it can get pretty intense.
It’s funny, when it comes to video games I’m WAY more relaxed than you, I totally take it easy.
I’ve always been kind of in the middle, I’ve been competative and hard on myself for doing dumb things, but when it comes down to it I understand that I’m mediocre when it comes to skill level. I played Counter Strike for 1 hour before realizing it was not my type of game. Being asked for a kickban from a server labeled for ‘N00bs’ that I had joined because a friend was there was enough to get me to leave, never come back, and regret spending 20 dollars on a game I played for an hour (I at least try to make a game worth a dollar per hour).
Also as far as SC2 goes, you hear gamers saying how cool it’d be to play on the professional circuits… and I say I don’t envy them one bit. They’d never be able to play other games. It’s natural to want to try new things, but SC players play one game to the point of mastering it, and while people say “you can’t master it” you can. Being a master doesn’t mean you’re flawless, or that you can’t fall to another person who has mastered it.
If mastering meant being perfect and being able to win without a lose, then the definition of mastering is far beyond the scope of humanity.
I sympathize. Some games ignite the competitive spirit in me, and it makes playing them a potentially stressful experience. Starcraft II is one of those games.
It’s more frustrating for me as a Zerg player – regardless of the debates amongst the average gamer, most professional SC2 players agree that Zerg need some tweaks to be brought back up to speed with the other two races. Whether you agree with this or not, regardless Zerg are much more difficult to play than the other two races, in mechanics, macro, and micro. I’ve taken to practicing my play and practicing builds in team games where the balance issues are not nearly as significant, but then I find myself furious at completely worthless teammates when they do absolutely nothing and lose us the game.
Ashelia, if you would like another serious teammate to play with, add me on SC2! My charactername is LingWhisprer (yes I know I’m missing an E), and my character code is 118. Send me a message, I’m always looking for a teammate!
I was in the same place. I started in Warcraft 2 and it when from RTS to RTS then MMO to MMO. In WoW I was a PvPer. I share that hardcore pain. I never was as insane enough to grind day after day for points or gear. I started, but often fell to burnout. I wasn’t quite “hardcore” enough. I used fraps to video my PvP battles and watch, re-watch and analyze everything. When I reacted a bit slow, was a bit off, I was furious with myself and when I had a streak of superhuman button mashing, then I was in heaven. Strangely enough, I quite playing video games. I have little interest in being super competitive in real life. I don’t play games at all anymore. It’s true freedom from my competitive dark side.
quite = quit d’oh
It’s a fucking game! Is your real life so disappointing that you have to completely immerse yourself in a fantasy world? I feel sorry for you people.
It’s a fucking article! Is your real life so disappointing that you have to bash on neatly written Internet article about the way someone’s playing video games? I feel sorry for you. I really do.
Oh, I understand now, you’re a fat fuck who rambles on about his gaming addiction.
You totally got me, man. That’s exactly what this was about and exactly who I am.
I want to high-five you right now for that response.
AAA, are you fulfilled now? Do you feel like more of a person? Is your ego high enough now?
BTW it’s HER gaming “addiction”, not his.
Interesting article. I think it’s great you opened yourself up like this, and I can empathize to a point. Some games, like Halo or Blur, I’m completely casual with. But for some reason the Street Fighter series makes me insane with competition, to the point where, though I have the games and will most likely buy new editions that come out, I rarely play them.
It’s fantastic you are trying to work on being more relaxed. Facts show the more stressed out you are the more likely you are to die early, so it’s really an exercise in lengthening your lifespan.
Hey there!
Just wanted to say, I have the same problem as you do with my compulsive competitive nature. But have hope, I have been able to recover and live a non-hardcore gamer life, I’ve been dealing with your issue for 18 years now (started when I was ~12).
But I understand 100% of what you struggle with, I’ve been the same way for far to long. It ruins friendship, hurts families, and can destroy a person’s life (ingame and irl, least yer a girl gamer, lot easier to make friends!).
I have, really, a multi stage problem… 1) obsessive compulsive behavior 2) highly competitive nature 3) throw in a love of gaming and BAM!!!! CRAZY HARDCORE GAMER INCOMING!!!
Don’t worry though, I survived and live a normal life now… I went through the worst of it too, just find your control. I know it sounds cheesy, but it got a lot easier for me when I got married…. but during my teenage years… sigh… I was a monster.
I think I live quite a normal life–as normal as working in the video game industry can be, anyway! I don’t usually get very worked up about anything except video games, and as stated in this article, the only thing that has really gotten me so intense was SC2 and WoW (about four years ago). I was mostly writing this just to discuss why I played competitively and how it wasn’t as fun as it should have been, a retrospective on my gaming life if you will. I certainly don’t have time to remember a match gone wrong anymore, too much work and other things to do like write for this site!
My housemate plays in one of the top Australian Left 4 Dead clans, and it is literally all he plays. Before that he was a WoW addict. Well. Not an addict. But he palyed it upwards 18 hours a day. But then he just got over it and… stopped. But that aside, he is an absolute perfectionist. He only ever plays one game at a time. At the moment, he has been playing Left 4 Dead and hardly anything else for well over a year. Watching him is utterly insane. Just this week he has started SCII, and I wonder if now he will never play L4D again.
So I was wondering: when you get so highly competitve, do you find yourself really focusing on one game at a time and not being able to move on till you really perfect it?
Playing games to master them is an entirely valid way of playing them. But I wonder at what stage it stops being play and starts being work? Well. I guess when it stops being fun. So much for that being an insightful question to ask!
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During a LAN team deathmatch game of Unreal Tournament at a summer camp, one of the guys on my team was getting pissed off at everyone, but our team won anyways. He had a fist-pump moment like yours as one of the counselors walked in. He asked who won and that guy was all too happy to tell him.
Then someone on the losing team said “I had the most fun.” I’ve tried to be more like him ever since. I feel whatever the diet non-personal version of heartbroken is about gamers that went through what you did in high school, though even that seems patronizing to me. Is it?*
*Because if it’s okay with one gamer like you, it’s okay with all gamers like you, of course!
There have been a few games that have pushed me into the competitive spirit a bit, but largely I am able to simply see games as games and enjoy them for what they are, which I am thankful for.
I’ve really just never been overly concerned with winning. When playing TF2 for example, I don’t really have a main class just because that isn’t fun to me, even if I’d be better if I did. I’ve lost games a number of times just because I wanted to do something funny instead, and regret none of those occasions.
Hey i really enjoyed reading your article, it reminded me of my own counter-strike days and getting hung up on certain players, hackusations the whole works:X. I would enjoy playing starcraft 2 with you. (the key word being WITH) I played the same 3 games basically lol except i didnt get into raiding wow more pvp :D. Did you play broodwar by any chance?
When I was 8 or so, my father introduced me to chess. He did not ever let me win a game. I think I only started winning at 11. Then he couldn’t beat me anymore and just quit playing, so I had to start playing at school.
So I just know how you feel. I wonder if my gaming attitude had been different if my father had let me win a game occasionally when I was young. I hate to loose, but now I’m old and I have a child myself now. So there are a lot more people out there with time to dedicate to games. Anyways, I think I’ll let my kid win some games …
Wow,
I’ve never seen your column but I am blown away by how in-depth and amazingly truthful this article (and past ones which I have now read) are.
I can say I used to take WoW as serious as you where my day consisted of work, wow, sleep. I have since removed myself significantly from the game and now enjoy it more as I play casually.
I totally understand and see where you are coming from.
But in some ways its odd how society works. I kinda get the vibe that this article in some way is an apology to yourself for your past behaviours and intensity about gaming (my apologies is I interpret this incorrectly) . I guess popular society would have us believe that the behaviour you are describing is unacceptable and there is no reason why you should take a fun activity and take it seriously. However, why do athletes not have this same stigma when they demonstrate similar actions to get the job done. They are intense, they do whatever it takes to win, they feel dejected and low when they perform below their level, they play a “game” that was meant for fun. They demonstrate the same behaviour in a different environment which deems it acceptable.
Go figure!
Again just a great article.
Also, I just wanted to add that no game was more controller throwing inducing and obscenity causing game than the original Smash Brothers, but that’s a different story
I suppose the difference between sports and video games is that baseball was formalized into a professional, competitive activity for a long time before games came along, and even then games weren’t considered critically serious endeavors.
In other words, Nolan Bushnell didn’t make Pong and think “I hope this becomes the exact same thing as tennis, except on a computer.” Even the very first season of Saturday Night Live uses Pong as a backdrop for funny conversations (though the effect is diminished today).
Interesting article. Very good read. It’s nice knowing I’m not the only one fuming with anger about to punch a wall if I get HS’d through a wall on dust2 or something of that nature. I recently just started sc2 and I’m not the biggest fan of the competitive side. IT’s way more complex than the og sc. i’d wish we still had use map settings games :/
You shouldn’t ever feel this much stress during a ladder game. Leagues actually don’t matter as much as people think in SC2. The Diamond league is littered with lots of garbage. The only matches that I ever care about are the ones in ESL and other tournaments or cash-related events. Even show-matches on the ITL aren’t as stressful as me as your ladder game was.
Take a deep breath, remember there’s nothing on the line when you play, and just play with a clear mind. Besides, taking that sort of approach is good practice for when you play a match that actually matters.
I can totally empathize. WoW and RTS games don’t trigger my competitive side but arcade fighters sure do. There’s a reason I don’t play against friends and loved ones. In fact I barely play against strangers simply because it causes me more stress than it’s worth.
I’m the complete opposite of this. :P
When I play games, I like to play games which don’t have much competition in them at all. A common statement people say to competitive gamers in stuff like TF2 is “Why do you hate fun so much?”. When I go into competitive gaming, I can just feel the fun drain out of me quickly.
This isn’t to say that games with competition, I hate; I’m currently doing a 3v3 on StarCraft 2 with friends, and also clocked a lot of hours into TF2. My problem is when the entire game really, really pushes for competitive gameplay; like, you can’t even navigate the menu without the game forcing you to care about your league rank and most played character and W:L ratio and all that. Playing to win, for me, is bad, because it’s a conditional event; the only way to enjoy a game is to win. Playing for fun, however, means you can still be satisfied even in defeat, even if it takes a while to stop cursing at the monitor and let it go!
I read the article and understood and then looked at comments and had to pause…this is a girl writing this? That’s…baffling.
What she’s describing is a variation on OCD, an illness of sorts, along the same lines, having priorities out of skew where the outcome of a game or competitive endeavour is more important than social contracts. The obsessive compulsion is it’s own reward, so even if the person gets no “enjoyment” out of it, the compulsion feeds itself.
It’s great that she see’s this and is working to resist it, because it tends to lead to unhealthier behaviours down the line. I did similar things in WoW and earlier games but had kids to keep me anchored…can’t spend 12 hours a night raiding and have small kids…well, can’t do it and keep them, at any rate :)
BTW, no disrespect regarding your gender intended, I just normally encounter this type of hyper-competitive behaviour with testosterone-laden men. You’re the first woman I’ve found that feels that compulsion, so it’s unusual in my experience.
It’s very commendable that you’re seeing, recognizing it for what it is, and striving to change it because it only gets worse with age if left unchecked, and can dominate every aspect of your life, as everything looks like a game.
Good luck.
This was a very interesting view into your psyche and others that have commented. No one has brought this up yet so I thought I would throw it out there. While I read through your article and the comments I wondered how much of this could be the result of how your generation was raised?
I’m not talking about just your home life, this is more about society in general throughout the 90′s and 00′s. Children are surrounded by competition their whole life and it’s no wonder so many have equated being #1 with success and happiness. The pressure is tremendous especially for getting into the best colleges which is where I feel a lot of this stems from.
I’ve also found you mellow with age once you realize there will always be someone better, faster, stronger, more wealthy etc than you. Maybe not today but eventually there will be a new #1. Good luck to you and all the others here dealing with this condition. It’s much easier to deal with something once you have recognized it.
Striving to be the best is a good thing as long as you can learn to control and utilize that drive and put it to work in a positive way in your life.
Sure it sucks losing. But, it sucks less if you’re having fun with your friends. Plus, there is always another chance to defeat the other team again and no matter how many times you lose, it’s not the end of the world. Nobody can win every time, unless they’re using exploits. But, if you play for the fun of the game and keep a good balance between competitive and cooperative gameplay with a bit of just plain goofing around every once in awhile, it won’t matter as much when you lose a big game.
I used to do clan wars in Jedi Knight DF:2, UT99, and scrims in CS and I would get so angry for the stupidest reasons like missing a simple shot, or failing to defuse the bomb, or just falling off a building or high ledge to my death. Only after joining a certain Halo clan did I learn that gaming isn’t about winning or losing. Gaming’s what you make of it, it’s your experience. Whether competitive or not. That’s the fun in it, it can be whatever you want it to be. That said a good balance between serious play and goofing off helps in keeping anger from getting the best of you.